what do you guys say to a real street event?

[RedBull]

wanna talk to tekk and vince and see if we can set up something like the pump gas drags they do in the states. have an around the island rideout, straight to the track and run. i think it would be a fun event. what you guys think?

[junjun]

Thats a good idea...

[VI_300zxTT]

Sounds good. Wut u mean?

[Dahman]

Sounds good. Wut u mean?

He means there are some guy's who can run on the track but they can't drive to cramers park make it back and race something like that.

[VI_300zxTT]

Ok just makin sure i understand

[Jesse]

Good idea,good luck with that.

[Dahman]

In a way he's sorta sending out a challenge.

[turbomikey]

so it's going to be a gas race no c16

[StreetRX7]

Im in...

[Jesse]

Good idea,good luck with that.

[turbomikey]

Good idea,good luck with that.

again!

[mr.cat]

wanna talk to tekk and vince and see if we can set up something like the pump gas drags they do in the states. have an around the island rideout, straight to the track and run. i think it would be a fun event. what you guys think?

i think thats a darn good idea set it up bull a post the pics

[mitsusqueeshee]

I can't wait to get my car back up now.:mad:

[RedBull]

In a way he's sorta sending out a challenge.

not really a challenge, just good fun. the ride outs are much more fun than the track. and its kinda like a big dysfunctional family gathering. i think it would alot of people good to go out for a day and just enjoy their cars, people take this shit too seriously sometimes. im just trying to bring the racing scene here something different, something more about fun than challenges and arguing.

[SwiftGts]

not really a challenge, just good fun. the ride outs are much more fun than the track. and its kinda like a big dysfunctional family gathering. i think it would alot of people good to go out for a day and just enjoy their cars, people take this shit too seriously sometimes. im just trying to bring the racing scene here something different, something more about fun than challenges and arguing.

That is an excellent idea Redbull!

As for the "dysfunctional family"... :wtf::eek4::runaway::crazy::lmfao::rofl::rofl:

[cruzan7m]

I like it! i like it alot!.....Streetrx will have to rep for me...lol....too far for me to drive.

[StreetRX7]

I like it! i like it alot!.....Streetrx will have to rep for me...lol....too far for me to drive.

fo sho.. cuz.

[JBRUSVI]

Iam In ,Kurruption********

[VIZuki]

i think thats a darn good idea set it up bull a post the pics

You just want to use redbull for his car and camera so he can post vids and
take pics lmao...:rofl::ugh:

[mitsusqueeshee]

MR CAT...Living VI Street Seen Life Vicariously through Red Bull. :rofl::3gears::hyper: :goodtimes: :soapbox::pics::seesaw: :beer: :rock::pics::rofl2::3gears:

[cruzan7m]

Hahahahahahahahahaha.......waaaaaiiiiiiittttt! So am I..lol! Be quiet drzuki..lmaol! We on the mainland need our vi fix...lol

[StX_RdRunr]

Meant to mention it last night but never got the chance. Sounds like a great idea!!

I won't do too well due to my normal street tires but would still participate. Of course, I need to get my clutch sorted, although with my street tires I doubt it will slip but it still did not smell too good on the ride home. I seem to be doomed to two passes a night so far.:rofl: I'll get there, need to be ready for the 28th March (and our regular races of course).

The other rule the Pump Gas drags have is the hood has to remain closed once you roll through the gate.

I think they even drain the tank of each car and fill it with 93 octane (fuel company is one of the sponsors). Clearly we don't need to get that serious, don't want to defeat the purpose of the event, which is to get out and have fun with our cars.:3gears:

[mr.cat]

Meant to mention it last night but never got the chance. Sounds like a great idea!!

I won't do too well due to my normal street tires but would still participate. Of course, I need to get my clutch sorted, although with my street tires I doubt it will slip but it still did not smell too good on the ride home. I seem to be doomed to two passes a night so far.:rofl: I'll get there, need to be ready for the 28th March (and our regular races of course).

The other rule the Pump Gas drags have is the hood has to remain closed once you roll through the gate.

I think they even drain the tank of each car and fill it with 93 octane (fuel company is one of the sponsors). Clearly we don't need to get that serious, don't want to defeat the purpose of the event, which is to get out and have fun with our cars.:3gears: what kind of clutch you runing

[mr.cat]

You just want to use redbull for his car and camera so he can post vids and
take pics lmao...:rofl::ugh:

next best thing to being there in person but day it will happen:cool:

[mr.cat]

MR CAT...Living VI Street Seen Life Vicariously through Red Bull. :rofl::3gears::hyper: :goodtimes: :soapbox::pics::seesaw: :beer: :rock::pics::rofl2::3gears:

you are so right:rofl::rofl:

[StX_RdRunr]

what kind of clutch you runing

It is a Mcleod Borg and Beck style pressure plate. It was rebuilt by a shop in Ohio but for the 383. The disk is a Mcleod (I think 500 series is the number), with organic lining on the pressure plate side, kevlar on the flywheel side. I have to check with the guy I bought it from for the name of the shop. I suspect it was Tim Hyatt that did the work, he has an excellent reputation. He knew the weight of the car and the rear axle ratio but I have since added 175 - 200 ft-lbf of torque and 100+ Hp.

Simon Francis said he could smell the clutch from the stands and see the slicks spinning through 1st and 2nd, which is at least partially driver error. As soon as I let off at the end of the 1/8th I also could smell the clutch. It hadn't slipped before, at least not noticeably. It might just need higher pressure springs. It does have counterweights for more clamping pressure at higher RPM's. A little slip is desirable to keep from breaking other bits in the drive train but this was too much. I am going to make some calls on Tuesday. The clutch is almost new as I put it in and almost immediately blew the 383. If I had had my wits about me I would have thought to check with the clutch builder about the change in engine.

Nice thing about the dyno is I have some real numbers at the flywheel for the clutch builder. The scattershield is a standard Lakewood, no window, so getting into an adjustable clutch is not going to happen.

[mr.cat]

It is a Mcleod Borg and Beck style pressure plate. It was rebuilt by a shop in Ohio but for the 383. The disk is a Mcleod (I think 500 series is the number), with organic lining on the pressure plate side, kevlar on the flywheel side. I have to check with the guy I bought it from for the name of the shop. I suspect it was Tim Hyatt that did the work, he has an excellent reputation. He knew the weight of the car and the rear axle ratio but I have since added 175 - 200 ft-lbf of torque and 100+ Hp.

Simon Francis said he could smell the clutch from the stands and see the slicks spinning through 1st and 2nd, which is at least partially driver error. As soon as I let off at the end of the 1/8th I also could smell the clutch. It hadn't slipped before, at least not noticeably. It might just need higher pressure springs. It does have counterweights for more clamping pressure at higher RPM's. A little slip is desirable to keep from breaking other bits in the drive train but this was too much. I am going to make some calls on Tuesday. The clutch is almost new as I put it in and almost immediately blew the 383. If I had had my wits about me I would have thought to check with the clutch builder about the change in engine.

Nice thing about the dyno is I have some real numbers at the flywheel for the clutch builder. The scattershield is a standard Lakewood, no window, so getting into an adjustable clutch is not going to happen.
yea i was about to tell you about the adjustable one some clutch need to be broken in to i have a spec stage 4 which they say is very hard on takeoff so i have to play with the ladder bars pinon angle and the anti lag boost control
not run slicks 325/50/15 m t radials

[StX_RdRunr]

Prices for SFI bellhousings with adjustment windows start at $1000 and go up, so for now at least I am going to try to make this clutch work. Supposedly the adjustable clutches are the best, though. If you have an access hole in the floor to get to the access window in the bellhousing it does not take long to change the settings. You just count the turns to raise or lower the base pressure.

The street/strip aspect actually complicates things.

A good site for stick shift stuff is UMTRNORTh.com, by the way.
(United Manual Transmission Racers) Lots of good tech stuff in the forums.

I will make some phone calls tomorrow about break in procedures, good point. Hopefully it is not too late.

[VIZuki]

Hahahahahahahahahaha.......waaaaaiiiiiiittttt! So am I..lol! Be quiet drzuki..lmaol! We on the mainland need our vi fix...lol

HAHAHA:rofl::rofl: u octane pusher!!!

[Tekknikal]

listening..

[Chuck_H]

gtr will be ready..
:io:

[Tekknikal]

:io:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q218/tekknikal/ssvi_bin/i_see_what_you_did_there.jpg

[RedBull]

listening..

gotta sit down and talk with you. I think it would be fun. I lost vinces number but I would rather have a good idea of how we can organize it before I go to vince with it.

[Tekknikal]

gotta sit down and talk with you. I think it would be fun. I lost vinces number but I would rather have a good idea of how we can organize it before I go to vince with it.

cool..hit me up when youre off .. i also have other ideas that may relate to this.

[Lil red]

gotta sit down and talk with you. I think it would be fun. I lost vinces number but I would rather have a good idea of how we can organize it before I go to vince with it.

And what are we trying to prove now:dunno::dunno:why is this race gas talk always coming up,it's your choice what gas you want to run........

[MICKEY]

^^^^+1

[cruzan7m]

HAHAHA:rofl::rofl: u octane pusher!!!

Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh bwai!:rofl:

[RedBull]

And what are we trying to prove now:dunno::dunno:why is this race gas talk always coming up,it's your choice what gas you want to run........

why is it everyone feels its always got to be about proving something. i think i have already proved more than enough. this is about fun not competition. and honestly are you actually gonna come out???????? or you just felt like having something to say?

[VIZuki]

ohh shit RED don't gottah go there..but I'll come to his defense and say he's more on call than anyone here..times I think no one up higher is around LIL RED pops up..and on the oddest days...so before racing and fun theres work to be done....me on the other side I love ride outs you will rarely catch me at track...march though you will just because theres gona be alot more going on than a racing down the track every 5 minutes......lmao!!!

[Tekknikal]

And what are we trying to prove now:dunno::dunno:why is this race gas talk always coming up,it's your choice what gas you want to run........

tires and fuels permitted would have to be figured out. having said that, i think the general concept is a 'street' race in the classic sense- two cars pull up to a redlight and see who's faster. except that it doesnt happen on the street. its not a format that would apply to everyone. anyone building a full drag car cant really compete. but it might be something appealing to lower classes and may have an even broader appeal.

[mitsusqueeshee]

why is it everyone feels its always got to be about proving something. i think i have already proved more than enough. this is about fun not competition. and honestly are you actually gonna come out???????? or you just felt like having something to say?



Besides, isn't this supposed to be like the "pump gas drags" like they do in the states. I think we should go one step further...and do "Regular Gas" drags :rofl:...I guess no one would go for that.

[turbomikey]

Besides, isn't this supposed to be like the "pump gas drags" like they do in the states. I think we should go one step further...and do "Regular Gas" drags :rofl:...I guess no one would go for that.

walk whit more piston's and rod's. it will have a blowup engine festival for everybody:rofl:

[RedBull]

ohh shit RED don't gottah go there..but I'll come to his defense and say he's more on call than anyone here..times I think no one up higher is around LIL RED pops up..and on the oddest days...so before racing and fun theres work to be done....me on the other side I love ride outs you will rarely catch me at track...march though you will just because theres gona be alot more going on than a racing down the track every 5 minutes......lmao!!!

you always standing up for somebody. People take shit out of context. Comments like his are the exact reason pulling off an event like that wouldn't be possible. If you don't plan to attend or you don't have suggestions or something positive to say I would appreciate you keeping your opinion to yourself as to not dissuade someone else from attending. Don't try to turn this thing into something it's not. This is supposed to be about fun and bringing people together. Not about proving anything or whos faster. As for you Dr. Zuki. So far I have seen you present at 1 rideout and I haven't seen you at the track since the last time you went with me back when I had my civic. The racing/car scene is doing better than it has in a long time. People are actually having fun racing. I'm just trying to keep that going because it's something that I am happy to be a part of.

[turbomikey]

you always standing up for somebody. People take shit out of context. Comments like his are the exact reason pulling off an event like that wouldn't be possible. If you don't plan to attend or you don't have suggestions or something positive to say I would appreciate you keeping your opinion to yourself as to not dissuade someone else from attending. Don't try to turn this thing into something it's not. This is supposed to be about fun and bringing people together. Not about proving anything or whos faster. As for you Dr. Zuki. So far I have seen you present at 1 rideout and I haven't seen you at the track since the last time you went with me back when I had my civic. The racing/car scene is doing better than it has in a long time. People are actually having fun racing. I'm just trying to keep that going because it's something that I am happy to be a part of.

:bowdown:

[VIZuki]

I agree with u and if u are having fun my bwoy keep doing it...no discouragement there from me...as for sticking up..I do it for u too...especially when ur not around so u really don't know what is going down. I haven't been able to attend ride outs cause there on days I work or off when u guys are finishing..my question is why don't people bitchwhen u have things to do such as work and can't attend...they don't cause it's as simple as that....weither or not taken out of context u know this the next man not so much..but again does it really bother u in the long run......NO so why do u care....

[Lil red]

you always standing up for somebody. People take shit out of context. Comments like his are the exact reason pulling off an event like that wouldn't be possible. If you don't plan to attend or you don't have suggestions or something positive to say I would appreciate you keeping your opinion to yourself as to not dissuade someone else from attending. Don't try to turn this thing into something it's not. This is supposed to be about fun and bringing people together. Not about proving anything or whos faster. As for you Dr. Zuki. So far I have seen you present at 1 rideout and I haven't seen you at the track since the last time you went with me back when I had my civic. The racing/car scene is doing better than it has in a long time. People are actually having fun racing. I'm just trying to keep that going because it's something that I am happy to be a part of.

If it's all about fun why are you trying to keep a certain group out,:dunno: fun is fun so octane should not be an issue, so we could say no turbo bigger than a 67mm like some street car class rules state side. that would eliminate most of the turbo car here including YOU. i can't tell you what size turbo to run :dunno: but you want to say what octane to run.we all have the love for racing. it's your choice not to run race gas like it's my choice not put a t76 turbo on my car..........

[RedBull]

If it's all about fun why are you trying to keep a certain group out,:dunno: fun is fun so octane should not be an issue, so we could say no turbo bigger than a 67mm like some street car class rules state side. that would eliminate most of the turbo car here including YOU. i can't tell you what size turbo to run :dunno: but you want to say what octane to run.we all have the love for racing. it's your choice not to run race gas like it's my choice not put a t76 turbo on my car..........

as i said shit gets taken out of context "wanna talk to tekk and vince and see if we can set up something like the pump gas drags they do in the states. have an around the island rideout, straight to the track and run. i think it would be a fun event. what you guys think?"
i said something like the pumpgas drags they do in the states, i didnt say you could only run pumpgas, i was meening more of the way they do it. you have to drive around and complete a certain amount of miles then drive to the track and run what you brung. as was said the details have not been decided on. but there you go bashing me again for trying to hold an event that you obviously have no intention of participating in. if you had been to the track in the past say 3 months you would realize that i have been running race fuel. but you just wanna criticize without facts. if this is something you would be interested in participating in then fine. if not then why do you feel the need to criticize? obviously this event would not be for everyone. thats kinda the point. this is for "real street cars" cars that can be driven hard all day and then go to the track and run for the hell of it. if someone doesnt feel comfortable driving there car on the street and feel they need to run race fuel or a 101mm turbo thats thier business. that just meens they wont be attending the rideout, noone is barring anyone from racing. if you wanna run your car at the track by all meens do. but it will be outside the classes set forth. i have all intentions on running this whole deal on my 19's and yes i plan on running PUMPGAS. if you dont agree with the rules or you just wanna bitch then stay home, its just that simple.


and just so you know the t78 33d is a 67mm compressor wheel

[RedBull]

I agree with u and if u are having fun my bwoy keep doing it...no discouragement there from me...as for sticking up..I do it for u too...especially when ur not around so u really don't know what is going down. I haven't been able to attend ride outs cause there on days I work or off when u guys are finishing..my question is why don't people bitchwhen u have things to do such as work and can't attend...they don't cause it's as simple as that....weither or not taken out of context u know this the next man not so much..but again does it really bother u in the long run......NO so why do u care....

i have been to pretty much every event for the past 3 or 4 months whether i had to work or not. i didnt go to work this past sunday because i was at the track til 2:30 in the morning. i dont recommend that, but thats my choice. i love racing and i hate my job. so i do what makes me happy. my point to you is that in order to criticize or have a valid opinion about an event or rideout, you should probably attend some..... i know everyone is entitled to their own opinion but dont knock something that you dont plan to participate in in the first place. if people wanna go then cool..... if not then thats fine too...... if you dont like it then dont come but dont try to ruin it for everyone else that may be interested is all im saying.

[mr.cat]

well for all those who attend have fun

[RedBull]

well for all those who attend have fun

thats what its all about..... if we can make this thing happen dont worry i will definately take video for you guys in the states

[De O]

:popcorn:

[SwiftGts]

This is an awesome idea and I hope it happens...

IMO, rules should be simple...and I hope it includes stuff like:

No tunning-up should be allowed after the rideout (except for tire pressures of course)...If you have adjustable coilovers, street set-up should remain... Priority use of the track should be given to those who did the rideout because the effort should be rewarded...etc...

Modified cars get plenty of events during the year... De-tuned cars should have their day too... That does not mean that people can show up at the track and participate but, as Redbull pointed out, they will run a separate category and so should the ones that decide to up-tune their cars after the rideout... Besides, it sounds like a lot of fun and you bring to the track a "daily" driver car...

[cruzan7m]

thats what its all about..... if we can make this thing happen dont worry i will definately take video for you guys in the states

Bless you big man!

[mr.cat]

thats what its all about..... if we can make this thing happen dont worry i will definately take video for you guys in the states

will be waiting to take my next hit bless you bull and tek you guys all ways get the job done puff puff pass

[VIZuki]

Bless you big man!

I take that back:rofl: suck up good for nothing octane whore!!!!!:ugh::ugh::no:

[Lil red]

If would be nice to see all top cars and the regular's go out on a ride out :cool: think about all the heads we will turn..:bowdown::bowdown:Redbull i think it's very cool idea........

[RedBull]

i gotta get off my ass and talk to tekk and see if we can do this, i miss the rideouts. i cant think of a better way to spend a day, rideout and racing.

[Tekknikal]

well i have the next couple ride outs planned... ive also thought about how an event like this could be organized before. in fact the original kots started along these lines, at least in theory, until it all changed. i still have those ideas though and i think they're pretty similar to what you're thinking.

of course, the big question is what kind of interest there is.. but i ultimately i think that for an idea like this there's only one way to find out.

but yea we can chat about it whenever. i have rules, classes, etc already thought through and integrating a ride out into it is pretty doable id say

[De O]

:coffee:

[StreetRX7]

hmmm april would be great..

[RedBull]

well i have the next couple ride outs planned... ive also thought about how an event like this could be organized before. in fact the original kots started along these lines, at least in theory, until it all changed. i still have those ideas though and i think they're pretty similar to what you're thinking.

of course, the big question is what kind of interest there is.. but i ultimately i think that for an idea like this there's only one way to find out.

but yea we can chat about it whenever. i have rules, classes, etc already thought through and integrating a ride out into it is pretty doable id say

will try to get up with you tomorrow afternoon. the thing about an event like this is that you dont have to have a race car, you can bring the wifeys car if you want (not you marvin). if we could get it organized well in advance i think we could actually have a good turn out. i have been craving a good rideout for a while now and i think im not the only one. and since vince is being cooperative with the track i think it would be a good allday event that people could actually bring their family's to be a part of. i cant speak for everyone but drag racing was always and probably always will be a family event for me. if there is one thing i have learned through my kinda popularity at the track is that there are alot of young eager kids out there that are very interested in cars and racing just as i was when i was a kid. they need positive things to look to and positive people to look up to. i think events like these with no drama, that are all about fun would be good for everyone. especially the younger ones.

[mitsusqueeshee]

...Do it FOR the children...:rofl:
HEY, maybe I can get this vintage beast ready in time.:dunno:

http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10057/300ZX_timing_belt_080.JPG

If I don't *BEND* all the valves...:rolleyes:

How do you like this one De O ? No fart CAN though for that snarling V 6 sound.......YET.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[VI_300zxTT]

looks betta than :cheers:mine

[De O]

...Do it FOR the children...:rofl:
HEY, maybe I can get this vintage beast ready in time.:dunno:

http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10057/300ZX_timing_belt_080.JPG

If I don't *BEND* all the valves...:rolleyes:

How do you like this one De O ? No fart CAN though for that snarling V 6 sound.......YET.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

:cool:

[turbomikey]

:cool:

i have a engine like that if you want that shit

[3tc power]

...Do it FOR the children...:rofl:
HEY, maybe I can get this vintage beast ready in time.:dunno:

http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10057/300ZX_timing_belt_080.JPG

If I don't *BEND* all the valves...:rolleyes:

How do you like this one De O ? No fart CAN though for that snarling V 6 sound.......YET.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

i told you guys stop laughing at those old school motors! they were built right unlight the motors today. just strap a little t3/t4b and a couple of cheap upgrades and you have a 300z that can keep up or beat redbull... here is my friends 89 anniversary 300zx yep street car:cool:

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/Roque721/300ZX/DSCN5446-1.jpg
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/Roque721/300ZX/DSCN5465-1.jpg
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/Roque721/300ZX/DSCN5448-1.jpg
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/Roque721/300ZX/DSCN5452-1.jpg

[RedBull]

nice setup... really nice manifolds.

[3tc power]

$1800 bills! it better be:rofl:

[StreetRX7]

i had one doing 13.5 stock..

[3tc power]

i had one doing 13.5 stock..

the same guy that owns the motor in the picture had a black 88 300zx bone stock motor bigger afm, evo 560cc injector and to4b turbo....that car ran low 11's all day long. we called the black eagle, but that bitch was beatup.:rofl:

[VIZuki]

the same guy that owns the motor in the picture had a black 88 300zx bone stock motor bigger afm, evo 560cc injector and to4b turbo....that car ran low 11's all day long. we called the black eagle, but that bitch was beatup.:rofl:

LOL hmm maybe beat redbulls car but probably depends on the driver..even though still would be intresting to see cause 300zx's are heavy...:rofl:

[mitsusqueeshee]

I don't see where ALL the weight is at? :dunno:The body is GARBAGE THIN, reject early 80's scrap metal.:no: trunk is rusted all to hell, when it rains you got a water fall on your feet:rofl: My starion, at least I know where the weight IS...body is built like a SHERMAN TANK...or more like a PANZER...I could use it to go through First Bank wall and out the other side and still get away...that is if I don't blow a head gasket...:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


BTW This looks like a CHOICE set up. Its got to be HOT as HELL under there though. Talk about a SHORT LIFE on the brake master/booster.


http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/Roque721/300ZX/DSCN5465-1.jpg

[cruzan7m]

I take that back:rofl: suck up good for nothing octane whore!!!!!:ugh::ugh::no:

:rofl::rofl::rofl: YESS......YESS!.....YES!!!!!!!

[3tc power]

I don't see where ALL the weight is at? :dunno:The body is GARBAGE THIN, reject early 80's scrap metal.:no: trunk is rusted all to hell, when it rains you got a water fall on your feet:rofl: My starion, at least I know where the weight IS...body is built like a SHERMAN TANK...or more like a PANZER...I could use it to go through First Bank wall and out the other side and still get away...that is if I don't blow a head gasket...:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


BTW This looks like a CHOICE set up. Its got to be HOT as HELL under there though. Talk about a SHORT LIFE on the brake master/booster.


http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/Roque721/300ZX/DSCN5465-1.jpg

this isn't the finished product! once the microtech is in and the car starts, it will go back to Roque for heat sheilds......

[VIZuki]

300zx curb weight :3446lbs
RX7 curb weight:2728 lbs
Toyota Supra curb weight: 3468 lbs
Subaru STI impreza curb weight : 2579 lbs (impreza of the same years)
Mitsubishi EVO curb weight: 2811.6 lbs (of the same year)

thats also with AWD set up of the earlier years which was alot lighter than todays set ups.

[StreetRX7]

300zx curb weight :3446lbs
RX7 curb weight:2728 lbs
Toyota Supra curb weight: 3468 lbs
Subaru STI impreza curb weight : 2579 lbs (impreza of the same years)
Mitsubishi EVO curb weight: 2811.6 lbs (of the same year)

thats also with AWD set up of the earlier years which was alot lighter than todays set ups.

depends on model.. goes up to 3200... like my car which is touring..

[mitsusqueeshee]

No fucking way!!! 3400lbs THAT IS MORE THAN A STARION:eek: That has to be a mistake.

[oldkyat]

not really a challenge, just good fun. the ride outs are much more fun than the track. and its kinda like a big dysfunctional family gathering. i think it would alot of people good to go out for a day and just enjoy their cars, people take this shit too seriously sometimes. im just trying to bring the racing scene here something different, something more about fun than challenges and arguing.

Dude, you hit the nail on the head in many ways. The idea is awesome, and I hope it comes to past. I'm definately in!!
And yeah, I see more bickering and $h!t talking at the track and at Isle than I see racing. :fencing:

Maybe if people spent time cruising around and getting to know each other there would be less arguing. It would definately establish the "streetability of some of these "street cars". I'll be enjoiying my a/c and dvd player during the cruise portion.

[®åfìê]

^^^^ wha u driving dred?

[oldkyat]

^^^^ wha u driving dred?

Nothing worth mentioning. Still slow but a work in progress.

[Scorpion King]

Why doesnt rafie mind his bussiness man. put your attention to that turbo junk you putting together. u should purchase something worth racing with not honda junk man.

[Scorpion King]

damn peice of shit hondas all they know is nos and vtec. honds need all of that to do good anyways.:gtfo:

[mitsusqueeshee]

:rofl: ...a step above a go cart :rofl:

[®åfìê]

hmm, i smell haters..... really untrulyy any machine is ah beast buh when u hate a honda thats when u just ah hater cuz aint no difference with a honda an anyother machine, thas wha i choose dred, u cant knock man cuz it light, it comes light an aint might fault u choose what comes heavy, anywayz so said, now unto u, u sound like a proper ass buh i shud purchase something worth racing, lol, whats that? a v8? well u mioght just have to call me v8 killer sometime in yuh life dred, btw that whole blue engine u got up looks like junk, fuck u think this is? lego? anywayz where u got turbo junk from, get yuh facts str8 an stop leh them man full yuh head up w/pure fuckery, so being said, mind yuh buisness dred, chat bout

[®åfìê]

rofl @ nos an vtec, well somebody needs it, if not who gon use it,

[®åfìê]

stop hating if yuh driving ah tank......

[mitsusqueeshee]

:rofl::rofl:I *CAN* HATE ALL I WANT...I own one.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Making a 1500lbs car go fast is easy...One that weighs twice that much...a bit more of a challenge.

[®åfìê]

honestly yall assume an exagerate on everything, what honda on st.croix wayz 1500, now u tell me that, as 0f lately they havent bin any 1500 honda even racing on the track, so dont exagerate that light, prolly 2k an i aint no where near that

[StX_RdRunr]

Making a 1500lbs car go fast is easy...One that weighs twice that much...a bit more of a challenge.

Tell me about it!!! I'm closer to 2.67 times as much:runaway:

Not hating on anyone.

So Redbull, Michelle is interested in this event. She suggested that you let her choose and lead the route in her Landy. Could be interesting. Might need to put some skid plates on the RX if you take her up on that.:rofl:

[mitsusqueeshee]

Tell me about it!!! I'm closer to 2.67 times as much:runaway:

Not hating on anyone.



1500lbs. WAS of course an exaggeration, but its a valid point.

[Jesse]

hmm, i smell haters..... really untrulyy any machine is ah beast buh when u hate a honda thats when u just ah hater cuz aint no difference with a honda an anyother machine, thas wha i choose dred, u cant knock man cuz it light, it comes light an aint might fault u choose what comes heavy, anywayz so said, now unto u, u sound like a proper ass buh i shud purchase something worth racing, lol, whats that? a v8? well u mioght just have to call me v8 killer sometime in yuh life dred, btw that whole blue engine u got up looks like junk, fuck u think this is? lego? anywayz where u got turbo junk from, get yuh facts str8 an stop leh them man full yuh head up w/pure fuckery, so being said, mind yuh buisness dred, chat bout

Men u hit the spot my boi,he tink everyone must go wit v8 or some sht he got a problem dan but don't worry he gon regret every ting he said,if he even come out wit tht build,lmao.n tht engine he got their iz real junk, n I smell a real fkin hater dog. But I hope his car will do the talkin if it ever comes out.lol

[VIZuki]

hmm, i smell haters..... really untrulyy any machine is ah beast buh when u hate a honda thats when u just ah hater cuz aint no difference with a honda an anyother machine, thas wha i choose dred, u cant knock man cuz it light, it comes light an aint might fault u choose what comes heavy, anywayz so said, now unto u, u sound like a proper ass buh i shud purchase something worth racing, lol, whats that? a v8? well u mioght just have to call me v8 killer sometime in yuh life dred, btw that whole blue engine u got up looks like junk, fuck u think this is? lego? anywayz where u got turbo junk from, get yuh facts str8 an stop leh them man full yuh head up w/pure fuckery, so being said, mind yuh buisness dred, chat bout

Well I'm just a hater then lol if I'm hating on hondas majority of honda owners see other honda owners who put in the work and think that by adding this there car is just as good or here the hype VTEC and think there car is the shit, yet not realizing VTEC is good but even better when ingaged way earlier tthan the stock set up...second hondas are light per say but there power to weight ratio is pretty much the same as any othe compact car say toyotas..your del sol being one of the heavy hondas or the rsx. The only real hondas that are light are hatchs and the CRX (more so the 88' pre era) the toyota pasio is a pretty light platform, I could go on and on..but if this was so why do you see gutted hondas racing against full interior cars doing equal times as full interior cars:rofl: theres a reason, to make that "light" car even lighter or just light. Power:weight sucks in a honda and unless the engine is built up pointless. Then again any motor built up will perform better than stock. Once you get into motors that where for the luxury side of honda/Acura then you see some performance and a swap is like changing oil in a regular..mounts,or fit kit and your good. But I've seen too many hondas to be excited like previously stated if I saw a toyota pasio or other compact car doing big things then it gets intresting cause the margin for era is so big and not many have done the good old trial and era and once gotten is more of an achievement than say just doing a honda swap of a bigger motor.:cool:

[VIZuki]

umm that crate motor in a gutted muscle car and or Force Induction will make you stop your honda by the 1/8th and turn right the fuk around before he even gets to the half point lol....crates aren't no joke and when matted to a fuel injection system..wow stand back...
This is simple N/A add FI to it and your fukked...see the other car in the left lane wonder what kinda car it is
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[®åfìê]

Well I'm just a hater then lol if I'm hating on hondas majority of honda owners see other honda owners who put in the work and think that by adding this there car is just as good or here the hype VTEC and think there car is the shit, yet not realizing VTEC is good but even better when ingaged way earlier tthan the stock set up...second hondas are light per say but there power to weight ratio is pretty much the same as any othe compact car say toyotas..your del sol being one of the heavy hondas or the rsx. The only real hondas that are light are hatchs and the CRX (more so the 88' pre era) the toyota pasio is a pretty light platform, I could go on and on..but if this was so why do you see gutted hondas racing against full interior cars doing equal times as full interior cars:rofl: theres a reason, to make that "light" car even lighter or just light. Power:weight sucks in a honda and unless the engine is built up pointless. Then again any motor built up will perform better than stock. Once you get into motors that where for the luxury side of honda/Acura then you see some performance and a swap is like changing oil in a regular..mounts,or fit kit and your good. But I've seen too many hondas to be excited like previously stated if I saw a toyota pasio or other compact car doing big things then it gets intresting cause the margin for era is so big and not many have done the good old trial and era and once gotten is more of an achievement than say just doing a honda swap of a bigger motor.:cool:

well my yute, well said, i c u read alot but in reading u wont kno everything, but ur wrong bout your vtec statement dawg...... the louder vtec the slower the car, the earlier the vtec, majority of the time the slower ur car, earlier ain good @ an more to it, but ur right bout ppl see junk on other honda an go the same route thinking the same outcome, but theres lots of knowledge 2 it dred, read some mo doc:bigthumb:

[mitsusqueeshee]

Bottom line is...for me and some others...a Honda Civic just does not excite me. No matter how much weight you dump off it, no matter what OTHER little engine you swap into it, how much nos...It just does not do it for me. I bought a Civic when gas went to $4.00/ gal because it gets great gas milage, and is very reliable...I am happy with the car. But go racing with it?... I can think of a few more Interesting platforms. :rolleyes:

[De O]

umm that crate motor in a gutted muscle car and or Force Induction will make you stop your honda by the 1/8th and turn right the fuk around before he even gets to the half point lol....crates aren't no joke and when matted to a fuel injection system..wow stand back...
This is simple N/A add FI to it and your fukked...see the other car in the left lane wonder what kinda car it is
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[3tc power]

i will be the first one to talk shit about a honda but at the same time you have to respect them because i have seen honda's put some serious cars to shame. hondas have crate motors as well....oh you didn't know that did you! yall and this v8 crap.....please don't read this and get me wrong you v8 heads....you too Mr. Cat:rofl:
this is for those who chat bout cars and never seen real cars run muchless drive one. when i go to the track i keep my mouth shut! why? because i always say "if you go looking for something you would usually find it" now there are honda guys here that would lay you to rest just by you seeing the stage after a burn out. now this is the reason why i went ahead and got the 3s because people calling my name on the forums yes mustang and supra owners, but i remain silent until it's time for war..which is very soon. you can chat your mouth off on cruz but what will you do if Rock bring they honda's?....Mr road runner?

all jokes aside! i know i say tons of shit on this site, but i can see in the next couple of years the VI will have lots of fast cars. and i mean import cars:rofl: i want to say more but i just feel like i'm just rambling so i'll just stop here.

[UnPalo Racing]

Wow it sounded like a mis shift going to third on the HONDA and he still got there first - HHhhhmm

[cruzan7m]

i will be the first one to talk shit about a honda but at the same time you have to respect them because i have seen honda's put some serious cars to shame. hondas have crate motors as well....oh you didn't know that did you! yall and this v8 crap.....please don't read this and get me wrong you v8 heads....you too Mr. Cat:rofl:
this is for those who chat bout cars and never seen real cars run muchless drive one. when i go to the track i keep my mouth shut! why? because i always say "if you go looking for something you would usually find it" now there are honda guys here that would lay you to rest just by you seeing the stage after a burn out. now this is the reason why i went ahead and got the 3s because people calling my name on the forums yes mustang and supra owners, but i remain silent until it's time for war..which is very soon. you can chat your mouth off on cruz but what will you do if Rock bring they honda's?....Mr road runner?

all jokes aside! i know i say tons of shit on this site, but i can see in the next couple of years the VI will have lots of fast cars. and i mean import cars:rofl: i want to say more but i just feel like i'm just rambling so i'll just stop here.

I wonder which supra owner u talkin bout:rofl:

[StX_RdRunr]

you can chat your mouth off on cruz but what will you do if Rock bring they honda's?....Mr road runner?

Either have them for lunch or get my ass kicked.:rofl: :3gears:

[®åfìê]

haha, nice ansa back de o, rofl, betcha he aint like dat, lol, anywayz well said 3tc, buh i have my moments where i hate or bash on ppl ish 4 ah joke buh overal i aint stressing it, whaeva machine rocks yuh boat, mo power to u, this all u gotta do tho, build an grow some balls an run whatcha bring, stop balling bout weight reduction an motor swaping, an who driving etc, i could give 2 ....., come how yuh come, 2 each his own dred, if u come san cut up my car for me i will take it as light as possible, but me i personally aint going thru the headache, different strokes 4 different strokes, stop balling, u need try vtec, it'll prolly get u off my jock, :jerkit:

[Lil red]

this is what a 1650bl car looks like....

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[StreetRX7]

I see the heat session start up again.. lol..

[®åfìê]

yea all honda in tha 2k session, but guess wha.... somebody gotta b tha lightest, some just mad cuz it aint them, lol

[StreetRX7]

yea all honda in tha 2k session, but guess wha.... somebody gotta b tha lightest, some just mad cuz it aint them, lol

To shave weight ADD BOOOST...:rofl: :rofl:

[®åfìê]

^^ neva kno, anythings possible

[mitsusqueeshee]

yea all honda in tha 2k session, but guess wha.... somebody gotta b tha lightest,


What?... IS that the FEATHERWEIGHT FUGLEY FRONT WHEEL DRIVE ECONOBOX CLASS????



:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:


:io:

[VIZuki]

well my yute, well said, i c u read alot but in reading u wont kno everything, but ur wrong bout your vtec statement dawg...... the louder vtec the slower the car, the earlier the vtec, majority of the time the slower ur car, earlier ain good @ an more to it, but ur right bout ppl see junk on other honda an go the same route thinking the same outcome, but theres lots of knowledge 2 it dred, read some mo doc:bigthumb:

reading and doing is knowledge my youth..you will always need to study and read to excel mechanics have to go back to school andread while at it so..that statement with reading and not knowing everything..haha thats the point of reading and doing..knowing everything...

[®åfìê]

ryt ryt, goes for some an dont go for some,

[VIZuki]

well those that don't keep up with the ball sure your right..but gottah stay up and keep or or get left behind.

[StreetRX7]

well those that don't keep up with the ball sure your right..but gottah stay up and keep or or get left behind.

Not everything you read apply... alot of the time in doing mech. work have nothing to what you read...

[Scorpion King]

GODDAMN THAT HONDA LOOKS LIKE A BEAST!!!!! I would be scared of something like that so light and with so much power:wackitdown: . i wonder what he runs? nuff respect to that car for sure man.!!:thumbsup::bowdown::eek2:

[mitsusqueeshee]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Scorpion King]

Hey in the near future can someone try to get a video on this car and post it man. if it's possible of course. i think that would be a good idea.:popcorn::popcorn::rock:

[oldkyat]

What?... IS that the FEATHERWEIGHT FUGLEY FRONT WHEEL DRIVE ECONOBOX CLASS????



:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:


:io:

:lmfao:

This thread is so far off topic it's hilarious! Hopefully poeple remember to say that the street event was a good idea!! Give it a shot Red.

I have never gotten used to a wrong oops, front wheel drive drag car.
You have to admit though, It is trully amazing how a car that was intended to move people from point a to point b make such serious power, and run such good times. :bigthumb: The honda camp has really been putting on a good show.
I have to say though, the light weight, and frankenstien engine swaps, and of course n2o, are what's driving these cars. Doesn't anybody remember the starlets and other RWD light body cars of the 90's? Weight is the biggest adversary to quick 1/4 mile times. If you took a fwd platform and a rwd platform of the same weight and horsepower rating, the RWD car would be a full second faster!!
Personally, I like full dress rear wheel drive street cars that can run 10's with just a wheel/tire change for the track at the most. Not too many front drive cars that can do that and still have a full interior and a/c etc.... Hoping that with some more money and time I'll do that.
Speed costs, no matter what platform your running.

[Lil red]

GODDAMN THAT HONDA LOOKS LIKE A BEAST!!!!! I would be scared of something like that so light and with so much power:wackitdown: . i wonder what he runs? nuff respect to that car for sure man.!!:thumbsup::bowdown::eek2:



NO that's a 1650 pound car with a stock single cam engine that runs 13.0 that's just to say. you still need horse power to run, and they are no 1500 pound honda's here, no way close to that:dunno::dunno:and if you guys didn't know i take's more power to run the same time as rwd car with a fwd car because of traction.

[mitsusqueeshee]

:lmfao:

Personally, I like full dress real wheel drive street cars that can run 10's with just a wheel/tire change for the track at the most. Not too many front drive cars that can do that and still have a full interior and a/c etc..


:bigthumb: :h5:

[®åfìê]

^^^ +1