Dyno on St. Croix

[mitsusqueeshee]

When is St. Croix going to get a DYNO again???
Even the Danes had one back in the day!!!:eek:


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/SEymji3o4XI/AAAAAAAAOWk/fv1GNnLs7QA/s400/dyno.jpg
Old dyno by Bethlehem Sugar Factory Circa. 1917


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Jesse]

lmao, thats a good question, see if u can get those arabs for car zone to bring one down.lol

[turbomikey]

50,000 or more for one of them

[Tekknikal]

the future for you today:

someone will probably buy either a cheap dyno or an OK one at a discount since buying one of the main brands new would be a part of a business model no one wants to entertain, and few could probably do. many will use it, some will benefit. many will then begin to think it's all about making as big of a number as possible. whereas before people became track queens based on one good pass years ago, it will instead come down to what number was put on a dyno.. no good passes required. it will be known that a bigger number obviously = faster car. in general, more engines will fail due to a dyno being on st croix than not.

some years later the same mentality will exist but more and more people will know the truth of it. if it is good, some will use a dyno for what it is. if not they will still go off island. these individuals will know that the quality of the man behind the dyno and the tuner is what matters more than anything else. without that and a good machine, they will know that it wouldn't matter if the dyno time is free- it would be worthless.

but that knowledge wont be widespread and wont be believed by everyone. the spread of knowledge will take hold and increase. just as the spread of wealth in an economy with poor values toward education (where the rich get richer) the creation of a dyno will mean that the fast and knowledgeable will get faster. of course, other factors will be blamed, like operators leaking information- which may well happen. in reality though, there are larger fundamental problems that the masses ignore and won't confront, not unlike how society approaches the issue of inequality among the classes.

even more years later, the knowledge set will become larger and things will become a touch more equalized. there's a 60/40 chance though, that the dyno is never upgraded - like sunny isles theaters- and the mentality remains largely the same. for many in the aforementioned knowledgeable set, they will be frustrated and may have to send cars off anyway. for most, the dyno race will become a new part of life.

[Tekknikal]

btw the dyno owner will likely make decent cash (relative to the average worker) and live happily ever after. but its also fairly likely that said operator has other businesses and was going to live happily ever after anyway. its just now he lives marginally more happily ever after. although thats not really how it works.. thats how the story goes.

or something like that.

[Tekknikal]

or maybe someone whos at least somewhat knowledgeable, intelligent, and fair with an invested interest in the community will bring the first dyno, and maybe it will be decent.

so maybe things really do improve....for anyone who's open minded enough to climb the learning curve necessary. but some may not take any advice or may not trust anyone else. regardless, due to this, a split will occur. the only quesion is if those who dont believe are willing to put themselves at such a large disadvantage to maintain their beliefs. ultimately it might force more to become knowledgeable because racing, like warfare, is competitive and no one wants to ever lose. in the case of a knowledgeable tuner + dyno, it would be like employing seals against an auxiliary paramilitary force. some who would otherwise not believe will probably switch sides and embrace change because the alternative (certain death) is that shitty.

[DomesticChiney]

Maybe after I start making gwap like papi pops and bring down celebirty after celebirty, I might come up with enough cash to bring down a dyno....

[mitsusqueeshee]

or maybe someone whos at least somewhat knowledgeable, intelligent, and fair with an invested interest in the community will bring the first dyno, and maybe it will be decent.

so maybe things really do improve....for anyone who's open minded enough to climb the learning curve necessary. but some may not take any advice or may not trust anyone else. regardless, due to this, a split will occur. the only quesion is if those who dont believe are willing to put themselves at such a large disadvantage to maintain their beliefs. ultimately it might force more to become knowledgeable because racing, like warfare, is competitive and no one wants to ever lose. in the case of a knowledgeable tuner + dyno, it would be like employing seals against an auxiliary paramilitary force. some who would otherwise not believe will probably switch sides and embrace change because the alternative (certain death) is that shitty.

Holy Crap...I read that twice sounds like somewhat of a brain strom!!!!:rofl:...The whole idea of big dyno numbers...thats all on paper, and people will do it for bragging rights. I'm leaning towards your average aspiring racer that is looking for a tuning aid, and wants to see what horse power and torque differences his part upgrades and tuning are really making. Having competent tuners for hire would be a bonus. Plus for your average low budget guy, shipping your car off island for dyno testing and tuning, is just out of the question. These state side guys are knocking the local cars for being slow and unreliable...lack of a dyno is one of the main reasons.:rolleyes:

[Tekknikal]

for the average aspiring racer, verifying gains on a part like an exhaust could be beneficial. so i agree, they would definitely benefit.

but, those arent the local cars that 'statesiders are knocking for being slow and unreliable'. after all, those guys arent near the center of the game and attention. theyre little different from what you'd find anywhere.

the cars being knocked are invested into the scene here and together represent st croix for better or worse. at that level they're mostly tuned. sadly, i dont think that most people have enough of an understanding of tuning to really make full use of a dyno.

more to the point though, competent tuners are definitely a requirement if you want to stop the 'state side guys' from 'knocking the local cars from being slow and unreliable.' they are absolutely not a bonus.

of course, it never hurts to have an extra tool.. but, to effectively use it there's more to be considered and i think most dont see it.

Holy Crap...I read that twice sounds like somewhat of a brain strom!!!!:rofl:...The whole idea of big dyno numbers...thats all on paper, and people will do it for bragging rights. I'm leaning towards your average aspiring racer that is looking for a tuning aid, and wants to see what horse power and torque differences his part upgrades and tuning are really making. Having competent tuners for hire would be a bonus. Plus for your average low budget guy, shipping your car off island for dyno testing and tuning, is just out of the question. These state side guys are knocking the local cars for being slow and unreliable...lack of a dyno is one of the main reasons.:rolleyes:

[Lil red]

I would love a dyno :woot: you wont believe how many close call i had tuning my car .like i tell people i don't really care to see hp numbers:dunno: just would like to do some 3rd 4th gear pulls and have to worry about going from one lane to opposite lane and still trying to watch a wideband a laptop.

[freddie_vi]

When is St. Croix going to get a DYNO again???
Even the Danes had one back in the day!!!:eek:


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/SEymji3o4XI/AAAAAAAAOWk/fv1GNnLs7QA/s400/dyno.jpg
Old dyno by Bethlehem Sugar Factory Circa. 1917


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

some people might believe this...but dyno never been on STX...nice pic thou:rofl:

[StreetRX7]

one day I hope.. but Tekk said it best.. its alot about dyno you gotta know ... not just put a car on a dyno an start tuning.. but thats another story

[De O]

one day I hope.. but Tekk said it best.. its alot about dyno you gotta know ... not just put a car on a dyno an start tuning.. but thats another story

:preach:

[UnPalo Racing]

Ok Really and truely, not even at 50K will that buy a descent Dyno, add about 20K to that (70K total) only then will it be consider a descent Dyno, Now with that said. If we want a Dyno we must first come together as an organization to set the FWD/Street Classes Division. NO Business person will consider such an investment if races are once every God only knows when again. Come on we are basically children of pass drag racers or some sort of family member. We have seen the same BS come and go and coming again. It will cost serious monies to get an Dyno here and it wouldnt make sense to get a perment Dyno(Chasis), the correct way would be a Dynapack. another rock in the pathway is going to be the price like was stated up above the rich will have the advantage in this department, so right now truely there are just as lost as we are. I have done many research on Dyno's and had hands on training on some, Is USVi really ready for this step?

[JBRUSVI]

Let's all keep praying for one,
for one day the racing gods will answer all of us.
KURRUPTION***

[Jesse]

If I'm not mistaken it was said to the meeting they held at ilse yesterday night,from the organizers themselves that they will be tryin to have one down here for the event goin down in march but not to sure of how true it is,feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[StX_RdRunr]

If I'm not mistaken it was said to the meeting they held at ilse yesterday night,from the organizers themselves that they will be trying to have one down here for the event goin down in march but not to sure of how true it is,feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Afraid I wasn't there, thought it was tonight. If they do bring down a dyno it will probably be one of the portable ones on a trailer. I suspect it would just be an exhibition to see who made the most power, not used as a real tool to tune your car (there wouldn't be time).

Here is a video showing the style of dyno I am talking about, plus an excellent example of why you want to check the routing of the straps, make sure they are not in the exhaust of a 1200 Hp big block because they will melt (supposedly what happened).

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Model-A-on-the-dyno-the-g_79832.htm

[De O]

If I'm not mistaken it was said to the meeting they held at ilse yesterday night,from the organizers themselves that they will be tryin to have one down here for the event goin down in march but not to sure of how true it is,feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

If you believe everything that everybody tell u then you gots a problem dog but i just remembered that you are young :no:

[Jesse]

If you believe everything that everybody tell u then you gots a problem dog but i just remembered that you are young :no:

lmfao, dude well trust me i aint the only that heard that same sht,n i didnt say i believed it im just sayin wat was said by the people which held the meeting so dont jerk me like tht.lol

[MazdaKLZE]

I know dem rockman will ship there car over to get dyno tune:cool:

[StreetRX7]

Afraid I wasn't there, thought it was tonight. If they do bring down a dyno it will probably be one of the portable ones on a trailer. I suspect it would just be an exhibition to see who made the most power, not used as a real tool to tune your car (there wouldn't be time).

Here is a video showing the style of dyno I am talking about, plus an excellent example of why you want to check the routing of the straps, make sure they are not in the exhaust of a 1200 Hp big block because they will melt (supposedly what happened).

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Model-A-on-the-dyno-the-g_79832.htm

Seen that before .. Like I stated.... it not just strap a car on an thats it.. but thats another story.. lol.. :rofl:

[mr.cat]

wow

[vangaurd]

good thread... I actually though about doing this in the past couple of months... my money aint long though

[eatk20s4lunch]

damn...thought my plan worked

[3tc power]

they don't have to be brand new! a good used one is around 18k or less, so all you would need after that is to make sure it's calibrated correctly. do you guys really think all these hole in the wall shops that has dynojets got them brand new? :umno:

oh and trust me, it would pay for itself!

[mr.cat]

they don't have to be brand new! a good used one is around 18k or less, so all you would need after that is to make sure it's calibrated correctly. do you guys really think all these hole in the wall shops that has dynojets got them brand new? :umno:

oh and trust me, it would pay for itself!

i got five on it dollars that is

[RedBull]

well find a good used one for less than 18k and let me know

[StreetRX7]

well find a good used one for less than 18k and let me know

x2 ... lol...