Mazda Comments on Next RX-7...

[Tekknikal]

News from autocar @ TMS... everything still seems up in the air, suggesting the car is still a few years out, at best. But still, the spirit is far from dead and the news should make the resident rotary crew happy:


Mazda wants to make sportier cars and a new RX-7 is on the drawing board, the company's new design boss has revealed to Autocar.

Speaking on the eve of tomorrow's Tokyo motor show, Ikuo Maeda told Autocar that he has done sketches of an RX7 replacement and is keen to push through a new two-seater sports car.

"We really want to have an RX-7 and if the market allows us to build it we will have it ready," he said.
Maeda gave strong hints that he is currently pursuading other senior Mazda bosses to give the new sports car the green light.

Maeda also revealed that a new RX-7 would be a two-seater and would likely be powered by a rotary engine, like all of its predecessors.

Maeda also wants to rejuvinate the entire Mazda line-up, and is focusing on attracting "enthusiastic" customers and pushing the brand upmarket by addressing the quality of the company's interiors.

The first fruits of the Maeda's thinking is likely to be seen in a concept car shown next year.

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[StreetRX7]

emission is there biggest fear.. Tryin to keep up with the market rite now an Horse power.. that would be ah major challenge..

Just hope to see them come out with something pretty soon.. :pray:..

[cruzan7m]

I feel ya cuz. A totally new RX7 would be sweet, weather it would be turbo i doubt it, nissan and toyota have gone the route of NA with the eception of Godzilla and the FT-86. They would or should go with a 3/4 rotor NA for power, and maybe even have less issuses with overheating and better emissions control; the aftermarket will deal this the turbo part....lol!

[eatk20s4lunch]

i like the interior of the green one! not your usual interior

[De O]

Turbo II :cool:

[cruzan7m]

Turbo II :cool:

:+1: A black 1990/91.

[De O]

:+1: A black 1990/91.

I like it in white

[eatk20s4lunch]

how bout orange?:rofl:

[StreetRX7]

those 3rd gens in the bottom are 2000 an 2002 models... they stop making 3rd gen in 2002.. In japan.. AN 1995 in USA... :no:.... :(...

I need me one of those models.. ..lol..

[De O]

those 3rd gens in the bottom are 2000 an 2002 models... they stop making 3rd gen in 2002.. In japan.. AN 1995 in USA... :no:.... :(...

I need me one of those models.. ..lol..

You allready got two how much do you really need :dunno:

[eatk20s4lunch]

:rofl:thats a good question:rofl:

[Jesse]

its looking good..

[Tekknikal]

rumormill is at full tilt.

next car = rx7
will replace the rx8
date = 2011
price range = mid 20k range
supposed to take the series back closer to the original rx7

if true, this could put the rx7 up against the ft86
if the price is a bit more, itll go up against the 370
i see those being the two benchmarks in the 25-35k range

si, se-r, and srt aside ... with the gencoupe, cr-z, ft86 (x2), and now this- the market looks like itll get a bit crowded, but itll be interesting

by the way these rumors are not solid by any means. despite the press theyre getting id rate them two steps better than educated guessing

[StreetRX7]

lookin foward to it..

[SwiftGts]

As StreetRX7 posted, emissions could be an issue, but also fuel economy will be a big issue. But then again, Mazda has had plenty of challenges with the rotary engine and they have pulled it off time and time again. I remember when it was said that turbochargers wouldn't work well with rotary engines...Yeah right!

I hope they pull it off again! I've always liked the turbine smooth and sound of those engines! (Weird, coming from a V8 fan)...

[mitsusqueeshee]

NICE INTERIOR!!!!!:eek: Who shot the couch???:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Tacky cloth like that reminds me of old mob movies like CASINO.:bowdown:

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[SwiftGts]

NICE INTERIOR!!!!!:eek: Who shot the couch???:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Tacky cloth like that reminds me of old mob movies like CASINO.:bowdown:

Looks very '70s' to me... Do you imagine the next morning after heavy drinking, walking to your car with a horrible hangover and see this??? Barf!!!! :ugh::ugh::ugh::vomit::vomit::vomit:
:hiding::hiding::hiding:

Please, don't post this picture anymore... Gives me a headache... The rest of the pictures, no problem, specially the MK3s :+1:s :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[VIZuki]

question though wouldn't a turbocharger set up aid in better emissions(not upgraded boost or fuel mind you regular 93) since exhaust gases are used to create power or spent gases rather than straight thru exhaust...also I don't see this being a problem since emission regulations are calling for lower sulfur gas in the coming years..hence all those who work at the refinery or worked on the building of the unit of the LSG(low sulfur gas unit) so I don't see this being an issue..also the aid of E-85 should help this. And no corn isn't the main byproduct used in this process believe it or not..other natural products are. Corn is only 35% of whats used...I think they can pull it off its just a matter of if the world will be turning to Bio-fuels or not, don't want to make a product for it the nit never gets under way to be used.

[mitsusqueeshee]

Everything I've heard about E 85...it SUCKS. The Brazilians got it right though, sugar cane refined into fuel. Keeps their dependence on foreign down, but they also drive fuel efficient cars.:ugh:

To me this is one of the or the best body style any manufacturer has come up with in a long time...hard to believe that an Italian wasn't involved in designing that body style.:rofl:

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[cruzan7m]

^^^^^ It does have a timeless design to it.

[Stockyf22a1]

really and truely they just need to make the rx8 with the heart of the 3rd jen rx if the rx7 was able to be sold and passed emmisins why not the same kinda set up with the rx 8?

[VIZuki]

really and truely they just need to make the rx8 with the heart of the 3rd jen rx if the rx7 was able to be sold and passed emmisins why not the same kinda set up with the rx 8?

This I agree with cause the platform of the RX-8 was a 50/50 weight ratio the engine was the weak point..everything else was amazing even on the circuit..actually E-85 has a octane rating way above anything you can get at the pump yet describable to race gas with out the harsh chemicals..burns almost as clean as propane which is one of the cleanest burn to date next to electric.:) its the production of it that seems to be the issue..you'd take alot of the worlds supply of food to make fuel...and we can't eat deisel,and gasoline....:rofl:

[StX_RdRunr]

The octane is definitely the big plus with E85. That makes it well suited to higher compression ratios, which in general are more efficient. A turbo is an excellent blend here as you can have a small relatively fuel efficient engine and then pump in a lot of boost, effectively raising the compression ratio (sort of), at least the cylinder pressures are increased, without detonation. The problem with E85 in a dual fuel vehicle that is NA is that the compression ratio will be wrong for one of the fuels. You can run more advance with E85, but that only works up to a point. With a turbo, if running gas, run less boost, with E85, run more boost, which will help offset the lower air:fuel ratio for ethanol.

Morgan actually used propane powered cars to meet the emissions requirements when they brought the Morgan Plus-8 into the country in the 70's. The engine was the Rover 3500 cc aluminium v-8 (actually an old Buick design). At the time Rover and Land Rover were out of the US market so no off the shelf engines existed to meet the emissions requirements. They hooked them up to propane and presto, they met the emissions.

Definite problem with the food versus fuel issue, though. Sugar cane is not free either. It requires a lot of water, and if you are cutting down rainforest to grow it there is a definite loss there. Some algaes are looking promising, but I think more for diesel fuel replacements. Cellulosic ethanol might work, imagine if you could turn tan-tan or guinea grass into fuel.

[1nastyturboII]

they just need to make the damn car, whatever it's missing, Haltech,Borg Werner, Steet RX7 & I add to mine..lol, the people who worried bout fuel economy should stick to corolla's & civics..

[VIZuki]

The octane is definitely the big plus with E85. That makes it well suited to higher compression ratios, which in general are more efficient. A turbo is an excellent blend here as you can have a small relatively fuel efficient engine and then pump in a lot of boost, effectively raising the compression ratio (sort of), at least the cylinder pressures are increased, without detonation. The problem with E85 in a dual fuel vehicle that is NA is that the compression ratio will be wrong for one of the fuels. You can run more advance with E85, but that only works up to a point. With a turbo, if running gas, run less boost, with E85, run more boost, which will help offset the lower air:fuel ratio for ethanol.

Morgan actually used propane powered cars to meet the emissions requirements when they brought the Morgan Plus-8 into the country in the 70's. The engine was the Rover 3500 cc aluminium v-8 (actually an old Buick design). At the time Rover and Land Rover were out of the US market so no off the shelf engines existed to meet the emissions requirements. They hooked them up to propane and presto, they met the emissions.

Definite problem with the food versus fuel issue, though. Sugar cane is not free either. It requires a lot of water, and if you are cutting down rainforest to grow it there is a definite loss there. Some algaes are looking promising, but I think more for diesel fuel replacements. Cellulosic ethanol might work, imagine if you could turn tan-tan or guinea grass into fuel.

Thank you roadrunner my point exactly....they need to build the car as a consumer is easy to say but its alot harder than that. I love the look of the car no doubt and intrested in price range...wonder if a turbo deisel rotary is possible lol...

[mr.cat]

in his case never to much

[babyface]

They just need to keep it the way it is and make the car much better than it is thats all they need to do to me ............

[VIZuki]

they just need to make the damn car, whatever it's missing, Haltech,Borg Werner, Steet RX7 & I add to mine..lol, the people who worried bout fuel economy should stick to corolla's & civics..

It has nothing to do with who wants what as a fuel and if it did then leaded gas would still be used. It's about emission regulations and getting stricter as the years go by. The reason why it's not a problem for older rotarys is because when u get ur car tested they base it on that years regulation. Take an rx8 and have emissions of the older FD and you'll fail emissions and probablynot get ur car registered. This is a problem for us and other countrys that have a green thumb not to mention we are a big consumer of auto makers in the world. Even in refinerys we have emissions and guide lines unlike India where the biggest refinery is located they have emissions or regulations so they can run dirty shit in the air and no one will ever fine them which is profit. Do that here and millions in lawsuits could be reached. So fuel and performance is a big part of what can be had and or not had. On the street that is.

[SwiftGts]

they just need to make the damn car, whatever it's missing, Haltech,Borg Werner, Steet RX7 & I add to mine..lol, the people who worried bout fuel economy should stick to corolla's & civics..

...I don't think you are following what is going on in the industry... It is NOT people who are worried about fuel economy, it is the MANUFACTURERS! As per new legislations and CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) they have to follow stricter averages as the years go by. This average now includes all the models, whereas before SUVs, trucks, and minivans were excluded. Mazda isn't enjoying the best CAFE right now and the RX-7 will not help... I've never ever seen a rotary powered car with good fuel economy...Mileage rating for the 1994 RX-7 with the 5 speed trans was 15 mpg city and 23 hwy...that is just slightly better than 2010 Ford F150...By the way, to meet CAFE is not optional it is required...soon the CAFE will be 34 MPG!

[StreetRX7]

they just need to make the damn car, whatever it's missing, Haltech,Borg Werner, Steet RX7 & I add to mine..lol, the people who worried bout fuel economy should stick to corolla's & civics..

Hahahaha :no:

[RedBull]

I don't think we will ever see another turbo rotary that will pass emissions and if we do it won't need much piping in the exhaust because it will be cats from the turbo to the tailpipe

[VIZuki]

+1 with redbull which is why unless E85 is achieved or the sort it won't happen, cause Mazda would be shitting those things out if it wasn't a problem...