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Tekknikal
08-06-2009, 11:59 AM
below ive put together some comments from toyota's highest levels of management that i've been seeing on the feeds. the press isnt saying a lot, but i cant help but notice all these tidbits. i think the message is clear and you can see for yourself:

According to a report by the Associated Press, Akio Toyoda, the newly installed CEO of Toyota, confirmed that the company will go ahead with plans to build a sportscar in collaboration with Subaru.

"I am very excited about it and I plan to fast-track it," Toyoda said.

Toyoda also told an audience at a management seminar in Traverse City, MI that he feels as though the company is at a new beginning that requires a new way of thinking.

"I want to see Toyota build cars that are fun and exciting to drive," he said.
source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32298586/ns/business/)



Newly installed President of Toyota Motor Corporation, Akio Toyoda, outlined his plans for recovery in his first major speech yesterday. Although he gave no specific details, his tried to set the overall tone for the company's recovery.

He emphasized two main points. First, he wants to create a product-focused management. "Rather than asking, 'How many cars will we sell?' or, 'How much money will we make by selling these cars?' we need to ask ourselves, 'What kind of cars will make people happy?' as well as, 'What pricing will attract them in each region?' Then we must make those cars," Toyoda said.
source (http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/06/toyoda-outlines-his-plans-for-toyota.html)



Yoshimi Inaba, the new head of Toyota's North American operations under Akio Toyoda , is taking a hard look at the Toyota, Scion and Lexus brands in the United States

"I'll be careful to choose my words," Inaba chuckled to reporters today, "but I can see standing on the sidelines that there is not enough excitement in our vehicles."
source (http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/07/are-more-exciting-toyotas-in-the-pipeline.html)

Toyoda is a big fan of driving and sports cars. He has personally driven the LF-A in competition.

So what will this mean for the company? Well I think the 086a is coming VERY soon. In fact, I think we may see something in 4months at the Tokyo Motor Show. I also think the LF-A is coming VERY soon, also in 4 months.

But, with a <$20,000 car and a $300,000+ car there's a big gap in between.
Will there be a new Supra? I highly doubt it. As much as no one will want to hear me say it, the industry has moved past that, for better or worse. I think Toyota will hold the IS-F in place and I would not be surprised to see a ~400hp hybrid sports car in the $50k segment. They call it the FT-HS concept. To be sure though,I dont expect that to happen soon.

The other question, of course, is how will their Japanese competitors respond? Nissan is doing well with the Z and GT-R. It's been said that neither Toyota nor Honda can compete with the latter, although rumor has it that that both companies may attempt to slot above the Z. The talk is that Honda is preparing a 450hp V6 AWD car which, if true would go head to head with the FT-HS that Toyota is rumored to be making.

I'm not sure I buy either rumor 100% though. Regardless, for now it appears that Toyota will once be in the sports car game. Kinda.

Duttyman
08-06-2009, 01:24 PM
Just when I try to look away, u pull me back in. Ok well since u twisted my arm.... Am I excited at the potential? He'll yeah! But am I even more afraid of having my high hopes dashed--- yes. I love Toyota. As a business, they represent people of my ilk well. Unfortunately, the firm like so many like it is being run by... Grown ups. Dudes who say bottom line like I say IMAX. Now tell me dread, how can I trust their judgement?

Tekknikal
08-06-2009, 01:40 PM
due to the new management, toyota seems at least a little willing to sacrifice the short term bottom line. based on the facts that the lf-a and 086a are real, i think you can trust them. and based on what we know of each, i think their judgment is trustworthy.

but as of now, that'll only benefit you if you're looking to spend $20k or $300k+......

i look forward to your next nissan purchase :)

VIZuki
08-06-2009, 02:22 PM
An on purchaing the platform but talks are that Subaru will also release the same platform with a subby badge. Will there be more detail to engineering maybe so I'll have to wait and see. But as far as Subaru down here there is no go to dealer, somy sights may just be on the Toyo.

N1GG4
08-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Did a little digging and found these.

http://www.importrpm.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/toyota-subaru-coupe.jpg

http://www.dieselstation.com/up_pics/toyota-subaru1.jpg

http://www.blog.automotiveaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/new-ae86.jpg

VIZuki
08-06-2009, 02:43 PM
both brands look close to that.

N1GG4
08-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Just read here....Don't expect to see the 86a until 2012...

Codename: “086A”, Delayed Production

Development of the body and chassis is complete and we’re told the development code for the new FR sports car is “086A”. The numerals “86″ should make fans of the now legendary AE86 Sprinter Trueno/Corolla Levin happy as it’s rumored that the numbers will be carried over as the chassis designation. It was thought that the freeze put on construction of the new Subaru factory slated to produce the Toyota/Subaru sports car was the main reason for delays in production, but this is actually in no way related and the real reason for the delay. Production will be postponed for several months so that D-4S direct injection can be applied to the flat-4 boxer engine. Production will now be postponed until March 2012.

Price Unchanged

Akio Toyoda also confirmed that the price of the Toyota/Subaru compact sports car is still 2,000,000 yen and that there will be no changes to the original plan to build an affordable entry-level sports car. The car is seen to be a formidable model when it joins Toyota’s line up as it will surely push the boundaries of a market segment occupied by front wheel drive compact cars.

Source (http://www.7tune.com/toyotasubaru-compact-sports-car-code-086a/)

That price is nice too.

Tekknikal
08-06-2009, 04:55 PM
yeah i had seen that before... my comments on the timing of the 086a are based on more recent info than that though.

it will be really interesting to see what they come up with...

VIZuki
08-06-2009, 07:05 PM
I wonder whe nsubby will release there idea of the model..theres already a leak on the 2010-2011 impreza..

92vr4
08-06-2009, 08:39 PM
2011 3000gt!!!!!!!!!!!


*Crosses fingers*

VIZuki
08-06-2009, 10:52 PM
at least your crossing your fingers and not holding your breath...you'd be dead all now....lol

cruzan7m
08-08-2009, 04:56 AM
I will wait patiently, and hope for good results.